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Poster: DeadATL Date: Sep 14, 2011 5:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: E72 buyer's remorse

The $450 charge hit my credit card this week and it has caused me much angst. I love the Dead, but there are so may ways to listen to their music (IA, internet radio, personal collection) that it seems over the top to buy 73 CDs. Plus, do I need to clutter my house with the memorabilia? Maybe when I tear open the box I'll feel differently. But, as of today, I'm thinking I should have used the money for a home improvement project.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Maybe you can make yourself feel better by perusing the "1972" section of shows here on the Archive and see all the shows you have on the way to your house that have been removed with no way to stream or otherwise listen to them anymore (here anyway). I'm sure not going to pay $500 bucks for those discs, but I surely miss the access to those recordings we were afforded here for the past six years or so.

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

1. A really perfect sack of Humbold's Finest (Lasts about a week)
2. A Nirve Paul Frank Bike (Expected use until stolen - 14 Months)
3. A Couple of Tickets to a Phoenix Cardinals Game, plus parking and One Beer! (Lasts about 3 hours plus tailgating)
4. An Hour with Eliot Spitzer's call girl Ashley Alexandra Dupre (Lasts about 5 minutes, then you talk)
5. One Seat, One Game - New York Yankees field level box seat (Lasts a typical 4 and a half hours)
6. Enough 2X4's to build a nice sized deck. Tools and labor extra. (Lasts about 10 years)
7. A good sized sack of blow and a pretty girl to hang with. (Lasts all night)
8. About 45 Twelve packs of Bud Light For your roommates Beer Pong Marathon (Lasts all weekend)
9. A weekend at the Hardrock Cafe Vegas, including Wide Spread Panic Tickets (Lasts about 3 days)
or
10. That set of CD's sitting in the mail truck with your name on it. Priceless! (Lasts a lifetime)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 14, 2011 7:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: who's counting?

Ha!

The "...lasts all night...girl and blow"

Sting, maybe.

Me? 10, 15 minutes tops.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2011 6:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

I can't say the price of call girls, but here's what $450 means in Nepal, where I live. I'm not saying it's "wrong" to spend it on E72 instead; I don't think that at all. But I do think it matters to have a sense of perspective:

1. Two month’s salary for mid-level government bureaucrat or high-school teacher.

2. A thousand books for school children.

3. Six to eight month’s salary for shop clerk, driver, or household worker (assuming it’s not an unpaid child laborer).

4. A year’s tuition for six to 10 children at a small rural English-medium school.

5. A water buffalo to supply family with milk, yogurt and ghee, for their own use and sale.

6. Seven goats for the coming holidays. (Not having a goat is like not having a Thanksgiving turkey.)

7. Our house rent for a month. Three stories, rooftop terrace, 3 balconies, etc. (Guess who can’t afford to rent whole houses? High-school teachers, honest government bureaucrats, shop clerks, etc.)

8. Four elegant saris for a rich lady.

9. Fifty simple cotton saris for farmers, servants, etc.

10. Hospital visit and a series of lab tests for 35 people.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

Except mine doesn't have my name on it: Says "to my grandchildrens' grandchildren - the music never stopped!" My 10 year old daughter is less than impressed that she gets to inherit the same (although she told Rock she likes the picture of him yawning with mouth open on the bus - at one of two recent free Moonalice shows in our area the past couple of weeks).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2011 6:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

That's a wonderful inscription.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

If you can smoke $450 worth of humboldt in a week - you either have too many friends or you're made of sterner stuff than I am. I'm thinking that's about 9-12 months ...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse: Or What You Can Get For 450 Bucks

maybe 1.25oz of the finest for 450 = 5 peeps, one week

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 14, 2011 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Captain - 52 Sacks a Year/ 24 Hours at a Time

I am thinking it's like the sacks for a 25lb. bag of rice or the one's for picking corn. Capt., Guinness Book of World Records baby! Endorsement City! Your face can be in every single glass display case in every head shop in the U.S. No, North America. Brainstorm....I am thinking of our own chain of head shops, across the fruited plain (at least). BD, Capt. & I may need you on retainer. And we need an agent after verification. I'm flying out tonight.

http://tinyurl.com/6ktzpnz

Just replace the word woman,sorry womyn Ms. AR, w/ financial streams.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 14, 2011 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

If you're married, I bet she loves it!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Sep 14, 2011 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I think the E72 box is a super-cool release and if you won't feel it in your wallet, then go for it and enjoy. But "over the top" was exactly how I felt and why I quickly decided not to buy (well, that and fear of my wife taking me out in my sleep). I already have a number of the E '72 shows in fair to excellent quality, plus plus hundreds of hours of FREE Dead music at my disposal, not to mention the coin I've dropped over the years on other official releases.

Truth be told, I don't buy a whole lot of Dead product anymore. What I mainly look for in a release is some combination of affordability and personal appeal (i.e., something from a favorite era that I don't already have in decent quality, or a cool compilation). I've actually enjoyed the Road trips series for the most part. Everyone's different, but at 44 I don't go all out for this stuff the way I did 25 years ago. Pricey box sets and "mega releases" like this are not for me.

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Poster: Headstrung Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I too will not spend $450 on anything Dead related. This expense is beyond my economic stratus as a Social Worker. It is not easy for me to fight the urge to slurge but it is the right decission for me and my family. This is half a months groceries for our family of four. But for those of you lucky enough to afford this luxury...enjoy and appreciate how lucky you are.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

not that i want to start an argument - but the entire release is already up on three bit torrent sites for your torrenting pleasure - yeah, you dont get the extra stuff, but someone went to a lot of trouble to upload the whole box set for those who just want to the music and nothing more.

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Poster: Headstrung Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Yup Direwolf, this will be my salvation once I can carve out the time.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

one of the sites has about 40 seeders right now - only about a 2-3 hour download with a good cable connection (or a little longer if you want the whole thing in lossless)

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I just checked LL, Dime, and Workingm....
Could you email me and let me
in on the locations Dire? I would love to know. Many thanks

Edit~ thx dire

This post was modified by craven714 on 2011-09-14 20:19:31

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 14, 2011 12:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

just sent you an email - you can delete your addy.

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Poster: rippleguides Date: Sep 14, 2011 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Would love to also know what sites if possible. Thanks so much.

rippleguides@hotmail.com

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

@23 G ...nice!! I'd go for @5shows if I were so inclined

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Poster: Arck Date: Sep 16, 2011 5:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Good to know some of the people on here will happily take/steal what others were willing pay for and justify on the basis that they "only" want the music.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 16, 2011 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

didnt mean to imply i was "justifying" it - i really dont care about that. i would be simply accepting what other people are willing to share. i wouldnt ever lose any sleep over it.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 16, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

if so inclined...one has to ask, what would Jerry do? haha.
Do you think obtaining SB's off of shnflac or bt.etree is stealing? IF so, you are an idiot. In which case,

*Blow me*

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Poster: Arck Date: Sep 16, 2011 11:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

No, I'm suggesting that downloading the contents of this boxset is stealing. These aren't soundboard recordings that have been traded freely for decades, in which case it's still not legal but has been tolerated for a long time. They are newly mixed and mastered multi-track recordings. Some people have spent a lot of money on them, myself included, and to see people on here be prepared to download for free what others sacrificed a lot of money to get is upsetting and makes me wonder what being a Grateful Dead fan actually entails. I guess this is the famous "sense of entitlement".

I'm sure you think anyone who bought the set is an idiot. You're probably right - people like me who bought the set take the heat off people like you stealing the band's official releases by financing the organisation.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 14, 2011 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

It is some coin and I passed. E'72 is O.K. (still open to conversion), but I can not justify to myself spending that amount. That's me. Plus, my kids would kill me. They outnumber me and are old enough to do it now.

I've found that while luck is sometimes involved in having the coin (we all saw our fair share of trust fund kids), the overwhelming majority of the time it's hard, sustained work over a long period of time that makes the silver mine.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 14, 2011 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I want some cuz it's mostly free,
so avast ye mates! arrrrrrgh!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 14, 2011 5:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Piratey things,

http://tinyurl.com/236lmk

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Poster: Rev. Leroy Date: Sep 16, 2011 10:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I wasn't able (for current $$ reasons)to buy said box but I am lucky enough to have a good friend who believes in sharing the proverbial wealth. The price tag when broken down to individual cds (not to mention extras) is very reasonable while a large bite at once. Having heard it (well, up to 4-24 now) I would and will buy it given the opportunity. The shows sound amazing but not according to the "never satisfied" over at LL...

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Poster: billydlions Date: Sep 14, 2011 3:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I did not purchase since many of the best shows or best portions of shows are already available in good to excellent quality, or already released like HYH, Steppin, Rockin.

For those who are tempted to torrent, BE CAREFUL! For something that costs this much I would suspect that there may a few who will pay a steep price. Am I wrong about this? I'd like to hear what others think...

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Sep 14, 2011 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse - fuhgeddaboutit!

I'm telling you - you won't regret it! The sound is crisp and clean, better than the original E72 by far, and the mix is excellent. Although the first sets can get a little redundant, almost every track is played beautifully.

Home improvement can wait, just like always.

Edit:
My other justification - I could never afford to go to more than a couple shows when I was young... now that my situation is better, I can indulge a little. This is like pursuing any hobby - it's good for your soul.

This post was modified by unclejohn52 on 2011-09-14 16:56:59

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Sep 14, 2011 6:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

Another thing you can do is split it up and auction each individual show on ebay at a reasonable bid price. I guarantee people gobble them up and you make back your money.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Sep 14, 2011 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

I'm still waiting to get the pleasure of them charging me, and telling me they have shipped the set . I have had "E72 buyer's remorse", since I ordered it . I am not usually a "deluxe" sort of guy, I might have gone with the "music only" option , had it been offered from the start, but this is a one in a lifetime sort of thing, and I guess once I have it, I will be glad I did get it . But first of all I need to GET IT ...

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Sep 14, 2011 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: E72 buyer's remorse

"this is a on(c)e in a lifetime sort of thing",

say no more ...........